23 Green Lanes, Palmers Green, London N13 4TN, UK. It had engraved glass in it and behind this door there was a barbers shop with two chaps who cut mens hair. Can someone confirm the existence of a Tesco store in Palmers Green at this time? Hi Mike, yes I remember Bruno walking from the cafe with snooker cue in hand after a days work to the Cock pub to try & win a few bob in the billiard room, he also had the Bezazz Coffee Bar corner of Princes Ave, with juke box & pin ball machines great times all for the price of a coke or coffee with your mates. I also bought a BSA Winged Wheel from them and had it fitted to my pushbike on which I commuted from Palmers Green to Tottenham Hale every day for my Apprenticeship at Keith Blackmans Ltd. A female named Jane lived above the J&A shop. OK sorry Lorna, but just thought the name being similar and all that. Its population was very small, and there were no more than a few isolated houses in the mid-17th century. We bought our first TV off him, black and white of course. My Grandparents ,my mother and my god mother were residents of Palmers Green in the 1910 onwards til abt. No expense spared by Mr.Grout!! Your change would come whizzing back in the rather splendid looking canisters. My family name was Church but we have moved away now. Wonder what happened to him, I would love to know. I retired at 44 and have now become an expect at doing nothing. I also remember Vic Madden the window cleaner. But I was answering Jenny Hs comment about the site at the top of Hedge Lane which was a car dealership etc & is now a very good Turkish Deli, which she thought had been a bomb site. Image supplied by Enfield Local Studies and Archive. We called them Labour Exchanges and people were made to queue outside. It is being discussed today and frequently, on my Facebook page Winchmore Hill And Palmers Green Memories. I had the best 7 years of my life with Victor, but sadly he died only last month, February 7 of cancer. The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar. a great character called Brun Hill. Also Broody and Hicks who sold cameras in the 1970s. There was a bank on one corner of Sidney Avenue which had also been hit. Not in my collection still but maybe will turn up on Ebay or Boot Fair. Many years ago. It is used by the Broomfield Model Boat Club. Next, The Curzon just past the Post Office (not goin in there Raymond, too hexpensive). Does anyone remember Victor Value supermarket in Wood Green it was not far from the Civic center and before myddleton road. The Beezaz was like a second home !! To be one of the first Irish or Greek families to settle in the area? We moved to Crawley in about 1955 or 6. Michael do you remember Mr Forkin at St. Michaels school Tottenhall Rd.arranging a boxing ring with proper gloves in the playground afternoon break with you & Everett Houghton as contenders? It would have been maybe late 60s/ early 70s Also I remember the very high slide in Broomfield park with concrete below scary! One was called the UK tea company. Palmers Green is often nicknamed 'Palmers Greek' or 'Little Cyprus' because of the many Greek, Cypriot and Turkish immigrants who have made this bustling enclave of north London their home. Lovely shops, great parks such a pretty place. Palmers Green by Geoff Bowden, 20061130. Went to St Monica School from 1970-71 before we were transferred to the new Our Lady of Lourdes School in Arnos Grove. Fantastic David, thats amazing. Hi Gerry My first girlfriend used to go there, she was one of a pair of twins, the Bower girls. Thank you so much. Hi Raymond, It was Sid Ran your uncle that I remember as a friend of my father, I believe I as at that party you mention but cannot recall the present I received but it may have been a small accordion. I went there 1953 1958. yes: miss belfontaine was head of Hazelwood juniors and mis hughes head of infants. Happy days at Nans. This was back in the early 60s. ps. Best wishes Yes, very tall, Scottish doctor with elderly receptionist and very noisy gas fire. Ooooh now youve switched a bright light on.The Pilgrims Rest what a gem. Some good times at Arnos. The ford zepher was back in the 60s it would have been the 70s in PG. Would love to hear your memories of the 50s & 60s. I think your Father was there too. Also the lady who sold us orange flavoured ice cubes for 1 penny . My parents told me that they, as newly weds, lived in a flat over the Dolls Hospital in Palmers Green. Sylvia, I. Happy times Hazelwood Primary School, Hazelwood Lane youth club, the Rec on sunny days. Had good times in Broomfield park and fishing in Grovelands park lake. thanks to Mr Sheppard, our brilliant Headmaster who never gave up on us and of course Mrs Phair who was the most fantastic teacher ever created-.such a `one off, Dear David and Pennie, must interjectno rushannyway, avin a larf in cornywall now and rememberin Palmers Green an Winchmore ill. 2 min read. Winchester) and was amazed when on a route march or exercise and dreading the eventas soon as we turned the corner from barracks, everyone from Sergeant to PTI had to fall out for a smoke. I think it then became Volvo (Triangle Motors) followed by a high end mens outfitters selling suits, shoes etc. Spent a few happy days with him and also his parents at their house up by the new river. I used to sing in the small choir there on stage just before the pictures started, members of the choir got in for nothing via the back door instead of having to pay sixpence like all the others. It was a black moment for Palmers Green as the bodies of the dead & injured were laid out on the pavement. Im not sure where Jays originated in Croydon or elsewhere but in any case it appears to have ended up as a national chain, with branches in places such as Bristol, Luton, Northampton, Croydon and Sheffield, as well as areas of London including Palmers Green, Stoke Newington, and Walthamstow.. The Prisoners were building the estate up to Ash Grove. Back to the New River, us 4 from 3b Southgate County met on Sundays in Geoffs Grannys House, Riverway and mounting to her Summer House Roof Platform at the end of her garden invented the game of Catchreeling, making our apparatus from cotton reels and cottons supplied by Granny the object was to cast as fly fishing to snare the bundles of cut grasses that seasonally the New River Authority trimmed from the banks. He used to fish the river during his leisure time, the only person in those days who could legally do so as the river was out of bounds to all. Then, of course, the great Grouts with its artistic window displays! Gerry, my email is g.hicks@msn.com would like to know more as cant use laura@yahoo.com my mail is returned. Sue Beard, who runs the Palmers Green Jewel in the North website, has discovered a 15-minute film about Grouts , the former Palmers Green emporium of tea towels, socks, knickers and corsetry that brought a glimpse of pre-WW2 (and even pre-WW1) shopping into the 21st Century. Seiferts (e the owner of the Studebaker Car and Parker Pen (2/6d for cesstificats after the War) practice. She retired when I was there and replaced my Mrs Gibbs trendy and Beatles fan. I bet you noticed big changes to the shops in PG when you went to The Fox. Ive lived here all my life (born 45) but dont remember that or Keiths being a bomb site. We often played up the Wreck at the end of Lynbridge grdns where the parky Mr Moody and his co parky Mr Savage would chase us if we caused them any trouble! Hi David, I think I remember you from Winchmore. I suppose the range of shops in every High St has changed so much these days because almost everyone has a car, fridges and freezers and generally shop only once or twice a week, whereas when I was young, people shopped every day and had to walk to the shops for fresh produce. I still hanker for an ice cream like Doms scraped onto a cornet with a spatula not scooped! I remember Tom I worked opposite him at Triangle Cars for 5 years in th 60s . Sylvia 0 I grew in in NRC, What was there before the maisonettes were built. Research prior to the following two 1974 experiments suggested that people are quite inaccurate when asked to report numerical details regarding events. Can u help??!! There was a Palmers Field here in 1204 and a road called Palmers Green in 1324 but there is no record of a settlement until the late 16th century, when there were . Best teacher was the top class with Mr Smith. He really lowered the tone of Palmers Green. Think pool is still there. Yes Simon there are on this site. The smell really made me sick. When were all the doctors, dentists, solicitors along Green Lanes private residences? I think it was called Harvey Sports (a friend of mine had a Saturday job there) & next door was a fabric shop called Metres which sold everything from net curtains to dress fabrics and upholstery materials, The couple who ran it were very kind & patient working our how much material you needed for your windows etc. Koubes here are also a match for Aroma with a slightly deeper, sweeter taste from sticky caramelised onions. I assume there was no ammunition in the house, though! Can anyone help?my partner is looking for his father.his fathers name is trevor george burgess and the only info we have is trevors mother lived on princes ave palmers green.if anybody knows of the above person and can help my partner find his dad please contact me on 07986272734.thankyou for reading x. As previous I lived in the Larches from 1938 at no 64. Best regards, Nick Hurst. would love to know.. oh that did make me laugh yes remember him. I would supply Aubrey with items from the palmers green branch by which time I think you where becoming involved in running the shop KELVIN PHOTOS and the old St Pauls hall that had the live groups there!Great times and we didnt have any booze either.good memories!! He also made excellent onion omelettes. The ice cream was served from a sliding glass hatch facing the street, so you didnt have to go inside if an ice cream was all you wanted, in the summer the servery was always open otherwise a light tap on the glass and brother or sister would serve you with beautiful soft ice cream in a cone and a smile all for threepence. So back ome goin West? We lived in Hamilton Crescent and the kids played in the Rec but it was short for Recreation Ground.lol. National Service. you may ask) too fashionable and hexpensive now thanks to ebay. And the wonderful smell New River Crescent was bisected at the foot of Park Avenue. Daughter of Uncle Sid Rann (Imperial Father of the Chapel. Cullens sold loose biscuits from large tins and lots of different dried fruits and unpacked ingredients that could be bought in any quantities and were then bagged in paper bags. Winchmore Hill is a suburb and electoral ward in the Borough of Enfield, North London, in the N21 postal district. I remember headmaster Mr Bennett at t ottenhall rd junior school Hi David Singapore 45. Miss Hughes was head of the infant school. Remember the minicab office at the top of Hedge Lane in the 1970s. The walls were lined with painted tongued and grooved wood. Meldrum. I have edited this comment because what it says was of a personal nature and could cause offence. I have so many memories of Palmers Green in the late 1940s [through to the present day] that I could be here all night, tomorrow and for the next month typing them up. I believe some time in the 80s Doms was sold but the new owner had the good foresite to retain the classic Doms signage, but not the good foresite to retain the ice cream servery!. Up until the purchase of the motorised bike I used to cycle in every day from Muswell hill. At the time Kennings had a garage in Edmonton which I remember was a Jaguar dealer so I imagine our old car hire site was the Jaguar dealer you recall and would most likely have also been a Kennings branch. I used to have a paper round in the paper shop top of hedge lane and green lanes in 1963 I got fifteen Bob a week Mr pogson was the proprietor does any body remember him. Annyway, do you ave a clue as to whether the proprietor ,Mr. Pogson was related to THE Mr. E. O. Pogson. Dad did buy furniture at A an Asand all else for Elsie (my Mum) without consulting er. I remember the tremendous explosion and my father tying the washing up bowl over his head with a towel and running down Sidney Avenue to help. The adults who gave their time for us were great people! I was Yvonne Farmer and our form teacher was Mrs Phair. Hi John ! Lorna, is it possible the furniture store you refer to was Ways? I know Pete and Bill Starling locally, not related though. Its best to just have fond memories of how it was Sylvia. I grew up in New River Crescent during the 1960s. Going back toward Hedge Lane on the North sideremember a chap who used to make basket work/wicker goods/walking sticks? It was quite good really if you wanted a weatherproof coat and were prepared to go in! Collecting shrapnel since 1939 in Leytonstone gutters and still collecting turning over neolithic shards in Cornish fieldsmy motto: Its Fun Finding Out (Chapman Pincher and Bernard Wicksteed, 1947) shaped my career. Was Mrs Dark the wife of Mr. There was and old git who served behind the sweet counter. The farmhouse was built in 1720 by a Mrs Childs. & knickers etc. Memories of a lovely green and leafy suburb, with a beautiful park Broomfield. yes recall them well. Seifert refused to save my an my Dads life in the 40Sannyway no ard feelins e saved my life later..,as for Tottenhall Roadmore our memories istories. Raymond, did you go to Ilfracombe Devon during the war. I do remember a Vauxhall dealer being at the top of Hedge Lane where Yaser Halim is now. My mum used to take me to the clinic in Broomfield House and I can still taste the orange juice they gave us,fantastic! Many toys purchased there! I practically lived in the Bezzaz Coffee Bar!!!! The headmistress, Miss Hughes must have been about 110, My class teacher was a woman aptly named Mrs Dark a horrible and spiteful woman. By the way my dentist was also Dr. Finkel! 1955-1957. Haveyou and your family lived or worked inthe Palmers Green area for donkeys years? Getting my school blazer and cap at Isaac Waltons. I guess that makes you and she cousins! I lived in Pateur Gardens From 1950 to 1966 does any one recall the Barrowell Green swimming pool . Also there was an old style Sainsburys Bricks mens shop, No Job Centres in those days. Memories in Palmers Green Read people's stories relating to this area: A Young Person's War in London: Hospital Care, Saved by Dad, Music from German POWs Contributed originally by Julian Barrett ( BBC WW2 People's War) As I was only 3 at the outbreak in September 1939 my strongest memories are of the latter stages of the war. Remember the Pet Shop across the road from there, selling all manner of exotic animals (would be prohibited today) including Marmaset monkeys! Thank you for any help you can give Bruno was my neighbour in the flats above the shops on the N Circular Rd and round the corner to Bows road He moved from the Quick service cafe to the Bezazz and as you say it was the hub for many. You just came up in conversation and I Googled you. Dordrecht, Netherlands. Details of the garage are in my 1963 copy of the Jaguar Sales & Service Facilities in the United Kingdom. Me and my two brothers been discussing the dept store at the triangle but didnt think it was Evans & Davies at that time . Anyone remember The Quick Service Cafe on the corner of Bowes Rd and N Circular run by and thank you for posting. 020 8881 7304. The only place Ive ever found an equivalent to Doms, is in the home of ice cream, Italy and thats a long way to go for a cornet!!! (Miss Watts?) The coffee shop WAS on the right going towards Winchmore Hill, surely? Bamboo cane area dividers, Italian shiny coffee machines and music.. Also the first Wimpy Bar at the triangle in the mid 60s? An abundance of dress shops and Evans and DaviesAn unforgetable shop that sold everything. Once purchased the items would be carefully wrapped in brown paper and tied with string before the exciting moment (for me anyway) of paying. Remember the Rag and Bone man had a horse and cart and my mum would send me out with a shovel and bucket to scoop up any droppings the horse might leave. Ken Elvery, Just found this by chance and been reading some of the comments as I grew up near this area. My taste dress-wise (MENS) was Bricks across the road, specially them T-shirts. Good to have found this site. Your memories may come from non-local areas, this is permitted as long as the page content is mainly about our locality." Last updated: October 2015 After the war he ran various bands Bert Harts band any combination. We were spoilt for choice for cinemas at that time with the 2 in Palmers Green, Southgate, Regal at Edmonton, Enfield and Bowes Road and they all had a different atmosphere. Definitely around 1958 when Bezazz opened: frothy coffee in tiny glass cups. I just recall the horse. I recall Evans and Davis, Jane and Adams and the owner had an e type jaguar. Lived in New River Crescent during 60s and 70s. And a bycycle from J&A (Rudge) set me free on those open roads, YHA and the romances. I manage to find scraped ice cream every now and then but nothing like the taste I remember. Those were the days. Nowadays there arent park keepers any more and some people get up to all sorts in local parks making some of them no-go areas in some cases. Symms Davies tempering miss Bennett miss Edith Ashby miss Doris woods The Fox stands in a prominent position on the corner of Green Lanes and its namesake, Fox Lane. julia, I remember Victor Value, we used the shop sometimes. Even on cross country runsI wonder what dear old Mr Robertson, Physical Training Master at Southgate County would have commented. Hi Jenny, slightly different location, a bomb did fall near the intersection of Green Lanes & Bowes Rd/N.C.Rd opposite Princes Ave. People were killed and the site was eventually leased by two brothers and used a a used car lot space called Keith Cars until the late 70s. Im impressed. Remember the barbers shop. The bombs which fell in Green Lanes/Princes Avenue referred to earlier were caused because one of our anti-aircraft guns which were mounted on the railway line shot off the back of a plane carrying bombs to drop on London and the whole stick fell there. July 2015. I lived next to the Bird In Hand Pub in the early 79s, but my grandparents used to own a toy and Oran shop on the corner of Tottenham road and wolves lane. Was this a WW2 bomb? Bruno would leave the bar at 9.30pm each night, snooker cue in hand and walk to the Cock Tavern for several beers & a few games of snooker. He took the train each morning from Palmers Green station. PS. Many years later when I was adult he told me what he saw. The Fox has a number of accolades. I do not expect a comment, as this was many years ago. Going back a bit who used to run up Fox Lane, stand on the bridge and wait to be covered in steam from the trains . And talk of the Beezazwe had the Two Bare Feet coffee bar in Winchesterif you could get past Sgt. Hi John Its not my memory of PG thats off, its my ability to tell right from left Im waving my left hand around saying Im sure it was on this side!!! Probably some of my first photographs were taken there. I was given an anointing spoon to commemmorate the big day. I think it was late 50s . Good lunch time food & very good value. Does anyone remember Palmers Green High School in the early to mid 60s. A man who was the spitting image of Reginald Varney (On the Buses fame} served behind the counter. Annyway I was bursting with fitness with all this pedalling on the Rudge when my time came to do National Service (Rifle Brigade. The owners were brother and sister Dominic & Anna both born in Italy who arrived in England after the second world war,they were very hard working & organised, so much so they only lived 200 yards opposite in Tottenhall Rd. To Gerry Hicks- yes I remember you, you had a wife called Rose and a daughter called Carol? There were two blokes in the back workshop mending bikes and preparing new ones. Me AnnywayI bought my first camera from Mr Kalms (Dixons) Edgeware (Agfa Silette) on the knock (so much a week) and cycled to Edgeware to pay the monthlya Canon copy of the Leica followed f1.8 lens but paid its way at weddins and I think I was one of the first to get back with ome developed colour (Ferrania) to the celebrations in them days. Yes..most definitely, I have a memory of a house flattened at the bottom of Park Avenue near to NRC. Opposite were the cottage gates where Italian Prisoners of War sold the plaitings of straw for pocket money. There was nearly always a queue to have your hair cut and my Mum would go shopping while I and my brothers sat and waited next to the coat stand. You done a bit of boxing? The small side road was Devonshire Avenue which continued behind the shops and ended near the railway station at the Triangle. Remember Roberts toy shop near the corner of Hazelwood Lane? I have lots of childhood memories about Palmers Green Railway Station. I havent been back for many years but believe the Doms cafe is still there. In the window there was a (seemingly) huge coffee grinding machine. I remember the entrance to Appleyards next to the post office. I lived in Tottenham rd all through the war being born in ,1935. Are you skating on thin ice already in the Netherlands? No Dave,my brothers name is Derek married to Cathy. Hi Raymond As to guy fawkes nightI was shot n the leg by a lout with an airrifle November, Beech Avenue 1948..no rush. But you are right about the window where you got served. I wonder if anyone remembers Dr Baxter who had a surgery in Hazelwood Lane at the junction with New River Crescent where the maisonettes are now?
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23 Green Lanes, Palmers Green, London N13 4TN, UK. It had engraved glass in it and behind this door there was a barbers shop with two chaps who cut mens hair. Can someone confirm the existence of a Tesco store in Palmers Green at this time? Hi Mike, yes I remember Bruno walking from the cafe with snooker cue in hand after a days work to the Cock pub to try & win a few bob in the billiard room, he also had the Bezazz Coffee Bar corner of Princes Ave, with juke box & pin ball machines great times all for the price of a coke or coffee with your mates. I also bought a BSA Winged Wheel from them and had it fitted to my pushbike on which I commuted from Palmers Green to Tottenham Hale every day for my Apprenticeship at Keith Blackmans Ltd. A female named Jane lived above the J&A shop. OK sorry Lorna, but just thought the name being similar and all that. Its population was very small, and there were no more than a few isolated houses in the mid-17th century. We bought our first TV off him, black and white of course. My Grandparents ,my mother and my god mother were residents of Palmers Green in the 1910 onwards til abt. No expense spared by Mr.Grout!! Your change would come whizzing back in the rather splendid looking canisters. My family name was Church but we have moved away now. Wonder what happened to him, I would love to know. I retired at 44 and have now become an expect at doing nothing. I also remember Vic Madden the window cleaner. But I was answering Jenny Hs comment about the site at the top of Hedge Lane which was a car dealership etc & is now a very good Turkish Deli, which she thought had been a bomb site. Image supplied by Enfield Local Studies and Archive. We called them Labour Exchanges and people were made to queue outside. It is being discussed today and frequently, on my Facebook page Winchmore Hill And Palmers Green Memories. I had the best 7 years of my life with Victor, but sadly he died only last month, February 7 of cancer. The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar. a great character called Brun Hill. Also Broody and Hicks who sold cameras in the 1970s. There was a bank on one corner of Sidney Avenue which had also been hit. Not in my collection still but maybe will turn up on Ebay or Boot Fair. Many years ago. It is used by the Broomfield Model Boat Club. Next, The Curzon just past the Post Office (not goin in there Raymond, too hexpensive). Does anyone remember Victor Value supermarket in Wood Green it was not far from the Civic center and before myddleton road. The Beezaz was like a second home !! To be one of the first Irish or Greek families to settle in the area? We moved to Crawley in about 1955 or 6. Michael do you remember Mr Forkin at St. Michaels school Tottenhall Rd.arranging a boxing ring with proper gloves in the playground afternoon break with you & Everett Houghton as contenders? It would have been maybe late 60s/ early 70s Also I remember the very high slide in Broomfield park with concrete below scary! One was called the UK tea company. Palmers Green is often nicknamed 'Palmers Greek' or 'Little Cyprus' because of the many Greek, Cypriot and Turkish immigrants who have made this bustling enclave of north London their home. Lovely shops, great parks such a pretty place. Palmers Green by Geoff Bowden, 20061130. Went to St Monica School from 1970-71 before we were transferred to the new Our Lady of Lourdes School in Arnos Grove. Fantastic David, thats amazing. Hi Gerry My first girlfriend used to go there, she was one of a pair of twins, the Bower girls. Thank you so much. Hi Raymond, It was Sid Ran your uncle that I remember as a friend of my father, I believe I as at that party you mention but cannot recall the present I received but it may have been a small accordion. I went there 1953 1958. yes: miss belfontaine was head of Hazelwood juniors and mis hughes head of infants. Happy days at Nans. This was back in the early 60s. ps. Best wishes Yes, very tall, Scottish doctor with elderly receptionist and very noisy gas fire. Ooooh now youve switched a bright light on.The Pilgrims Rest what a gem. Some good times at Arnos. The ford zepher was back in the 60s it would have been the 70s in PG. Would love to hear your memories of the 50s & 60s. I think your Father was there too. Also the lady who sold us orange flavoured ice cubes for 1 penny . My parents told me that they, as newly weds, lived in a flat over the Dolls Hospital in Palmers Green. Sylvia, I. Happy times Hazelwood Primary School, Hazelwood Lane youth club, the Rec on sunny days. Had good times in Broomfield park and fishing in Grovelands park lake. thanks to Mr Sheppard, our brilliant Headmaster who never gave up on us and of course Mrs Phair who was the most fantastic teacher ever created-.such a `one off, Dear David and Pennie, must interjectno rushannyway, avin a larf in cornywall now and rememberin Palmers Green an Winchmore ill. 2 min read. Winchester) and was amazed when on a route march or exercise and dreading the eventas soon as we turned the corner from barracks, everyone from Sergeant to PTI had to fall out for a smoke. I think it then became Volvo (Triangle Motors) followed by a high end mens outfitters selling suits, shoes etc. Spent a few happy days with him and also his parents at their house up by the new river. I used to sing in the small choir there on stage just before the pictures started, members of the choir got in for nothing via the back door instead of having to pay sixpence like all the others. It was a black moment for Palmers Green as the bodies of the dead & injured were laid out on the pavement. Im not sure where Jays originated in Croydon or elsewhere but in any case it appears to have ended up as a national chain, with branches in places such as Bristol, Luton, Northampton, Croydon and Sheffield, as well as areas of London including Palmers Green, Stoke Newington, and Walthamstow.. The Prisoners were building the estate up to Ash Grove. Back to the New River, us 4 from 3b Southgate County met on Sundays in Geoffs Grannys House, Riverway and mounting to her Summer House Roof Platform at the end of her garden invented the game of Catchreeling, making our apparatus from cotton reels and cottons supplied by Granny the object was to cast as fly fishing to snare the bundles of cut grasses that seasonally the New River Authority trimmed from the banks. He used to fish the river during his leisure time, the only person in those days who could legally do so as the river was out of bounds to all. Then, of course, the great Grouts with its artistic window displays! Gerry, my email is g.hicks@msn.com would like to know more as cant use laura@yahoo.com my mail is returned. Sue Beard, who runs the Palmers Green Jewel in the North website, has discovered a 15-minute film about Grouts , the former Palmers Green emporium of tea towels, socks, knickers and corsetry that brought a glimpse of pre-WW2 (and even pre-WW1) shopping into the 21st Century. Seiferts (e the owner of the Studebaker Car and Parker Pen (2/6d for cesstificats after the War) practice. She retired when I was there and replaced my Mrs Gibbs trendy and Beatles fan. I bet you noticed big changes to the shops in PG when you went to The Fox. Ive lived here all my life (born 45) but dont remember that or Keiths being a bomb site. We often played up the Wreck at the end of Lynbridge grdns where the parky Mr Moody and his co parky Mr Savage would chase us if we caused them any trouble! Hi David, I think I remember you from Winchmore. I suppose the range of shops in every High St has changed so much these days because almost everyone has a car, fridges and freezers and generally shop only once or twice a week, whereas when I was young, people shopped every day and had to walk to the shops for fresh produce. I still hanker for an ice cream like Doms scraped onto a cornet with a spatula not scooped! I remember Tom I worked opposite him at Triangle Cars for 5 years in th 60s . Sylvia 0 I grew in in NRC, What was there before the maisonettes were built. Research prior to the following two 1974 experiments suggested that people are quite inaccurate when asked to report numerical details regarding events. Can u help??!! There was a Palmers Field here in 1204 and a road called Palmers Green in 1324 but there is no record of a settlement until the late 16th century, when there were . Best teacher was the top class with Mr Smith. He really lowered the tone of Palmers Green. Think pool is still there. Yes Simon there are on this site. The smell really made me sick. When were all the doctors, dentists, solicitors along Green Lanes private residences? I think it was called Harvey Sports (a friend of mine had a Saturday job there) & next door was a fabric shop called Metres which sold everything from net curtains to dress fabrics and upholstery materials, The couple who ran it were very kind & patient working our how much material you needed for your windows etc. Koubes here are also a match for Aroma with a slightly deeper, sweeter taste from sticky caramelised onions. I assume there was no ammunition in the house, though! Can anyone help?my partner is looking for his father.his fathers name is trevor george burgess and the only info we have is trevors mother lived on princes ave palmers green.if anybody knows of the above person and can help my partner find his dad please contact me on 07986272734.thankyou for reading x. As previous I lived in the Larches from 1938 at no 64. Best regards, Nick Hurst. would love to know.. oh that did make me laugh yes remember him. I would supply Aubrey with items from the palmers green branch by which time I think you where becoming involved in running the shop KELVIN PHOTOS and the old St Pauls hall that had the live groups there!Great times and we didnt have any booze either.good memories!! He also made excellent onion omelettes. The ice cream was served from a sliding glass hatch facing the street, so you didnt have to go inside if an ice cream was all you wanted, in the summer the servery was always open otherwise a light tap on the glass and brother or sister would serve you with beautiful soft ice cream in a cone and a smile all for threepence. So back ome goin West? We lived in Hamilton Crescent and the kids played in the Rec but it was short for Recreation Ground.lol. National Service. you may ask) too fashionable and hexpensive now thanks to ebay. And the wonderful smell New River Crescent was bisected at the foot of Park Avenue. Daughter of Uncle Sid Rann (Imperial Father of the Chapel. Cullens sold loose biscuits from large tins and lots of different dried fruits and unpacked ingredients that could be bought in any quantities and were then bagged in paper bags. Winchmore Hill is a suburb and electoral ward in the Borough of Enfield, North London, in the N21 postal district. I remember headmaster Mr Bennett at t ottenhall rd junior school Hi David Singapore 45. Miss Hughes was head of the infant school. Remember the minicab office at the top of Hedge Lane in the 1970s. The walls were lined with painted tongued and grooved wood. Meldrum. I have edited this comment because what it says was of a personal nature and could cause offence. I have so many memories of Palmers Green in the late 1940s [through to the present day] that I could be here all night, tomorrow and for the next month typing them up. I believe some time in the 80s Doms was sold but the new owner had the good foresite to retain the classic Doms signage, but not the good foresite to retain the ice cream servery!. Up until the purchase of the motorised bike I used to cycle in every day from Muswell hill. At the time Kennings had a garage in Edmonton which I remember was a Jaguar dealer so I imagine our old car hire site was the Jaguar dealer you recall and would most likely have also been a Kennings branch. I used to have a paper round in the paper shop top of hedge lane and green lanes in 1963 I got fifteen Bob a week Mr pogson was the proprietor does any body remember him. Annyway, do you ave a clue as to whether the proprietor ,Mr. Pogson was related to THE Mr. E. O. Pogson. Dad did buy furniture at A an Asand all else for Elsie (my Mum) without consulting er. I remember the tremendous explosion and my father tying the washing up bowl over his head with a towel and running down Sidney Avenue to help. The adults who gave their time for us were great people! I was Yvonne Farmer and our form teacher was Mrs Phair. Hi John ! Lorna, is it possible the furniture store you refer to was Ways? I know Pete and Bill Starling locally, not related though. Its best to just have fond memories of how it was Sylvia. I grew up in New River Crescent during the 1960s. Going back toward Hedge Lane on the North sideremember a chap who used to make basket work/wicker goods/walking sticks? It was quite good really if you wanted a weatherproof coat and were prepared to go in! Collecting shrapnel since 1939 in Leytonstone gutters and still collecting turning over neolithic shards in Cornish fieldsmy motto: Its Fun Finding Out (Chapman Pincher and Bernard Wicksteed, 1947) shaped my career. Was Mrs Dark the wife of Mr. There was and old git who served behind the sweet counter. The farmhouse was built in 1720 by a Mrs Childs. & knickers etc. Memories of a lovely green and leafy suburb, with a beautiful park Broomfield. yes recall them well. Seifert refused to save my an my Dads life in the 40Sannyway no ard feelins e saved my life later..,as for Tottenhall Roadmore our memories istories. Raymond, did you go to Ilfracombe Devon during the war. I do remember a Vauxhall dealer being at the top of Hedge Lane where Yaser Halim is now. My mum used to take me to the clinic in Broomfield House and I can still taste the orange juice they gave us,fantastic! Many toys purchased there! I practically lived in the Bezzaz Coffee Bar!!!! The headmistress, Miss Hughes must have been about 110, My class teacher was a woman aptly named Mrs Dark a horrible and spiteful woman. By the way my dentist was also Dr. Finkel! 1955-1957. Haveyou and your family lived or worked inthe Palmers Green area for donkeys years? Getting my school blazer and cap at Isaac Waltons. I guess that makes you and she cousins! I lived in Pateur Gardens From 1950 to 1966 does any one recall the Barrowell Green swimming pool . Also there was an old style Sainsburys Bricks mens shop, No Job Centres in those days. Memories in Palmers Green Read people's stories relating to this area: A Young Person's War in London: Hospital Care, Saved by Dad, Music from German POWs Contributed originally by Julian Barrett ( BBC WW2 People's War) As I was only 3 at the outbreak in September 1939 my strongest memories are of the latter stages of the war. Remember the Pet Shop across the road from there, selling all manner of exotic animals (would be prohibited today) including Marmaset monkeys! Thank you for any help you can give Bruno was my neighbour in the flats above the shops on the N Circular Rd and round the corner to Bows road He moved from the Quick service cafe to the Bezazz and as you say it was the hub for many. You just came up in conversation and I Googled you. Dordrecht, Netherlands. Details of the garage are in my 1963 copy of the Jaguar Sales & Service Facilities in the United Kingdom. Me and my two brothers been discussing the dept store at the triangle but didnt think it was Evans & Davies at that time . Anyone remember The Quick Service Cafe on the corner of Bowes Rd and N Circular run by and thank you for posting. 020 8881 7304. The only place Ive ever found an equivalent to Doms, is in the home of ice cream, Italy and thats a long way to go for a cornet!!! (Miss Watts?) The coffee shop WAS on the right going towards Winchmore Hill, surely? Bamboo cane area dividers, Italian shiny coffee machines and music.. Also the first Wimpy Bar at the triangle in the mid 60s? An abundance of dress shops and Evans and DaviesAn unforgetable shop that sold everything. Once purchased the items would be carefully wrapped in brown paper and tied with string before the exciting moment (for me anyway) of paying. Remember the Rag and Bone man had a horse and cart and my mum would send me out with a shovel and bucket to scoop up any droppings the horse might leave. Ken Elvery, Just found this by chance and been reading some of the comments as I grew up near this area. My taste dress-wise (MENS) was Bricks across the road, specially them T-shirts. Good to have found this site. Your memories may come from non-local areas, this is permitted as long as the page content is mainly about our locality." Last updated: October 2015 After the war he ran various bands Bert Harts band any combination. We were spoilt for choice for cinemas at that time with the 2 in Palmers Green, Southgate, Regal at Edmonton, Enfield and Bowes Road and they all had a different atmosphere. Definitely around 1958 when Bezazz opened: frothy coffee in tiny glass cups. I just recall the horse. I recall Evans and Davis, Jane and Adams and the owner had an e type jaguar. Lived in New River Crescent during 60s and 70s. And a bycycle from J&A (Rudge) set me free on those open roads, YHA and the romances. I manage to find scraped ice cream every now and then but nothing like the taste I remember. Those were the days. Nowadays there arent park keepers any more and some people get up to all sorts in local parks making some of them no-go areas in some cases. Symms Davies tempering miss Bennett miss Edith Ashby miss Doris woods The Fox stands in a prominent position on the corner of Green Lanes and its namesake, Fox Lane. julia, I remember Victor Value, we used the shop sometimes. Even on cross country runsI wonder what dear old Mr Robertson, Physical Training Master at Southgate County would have commented. Hi Jenny, slightly different location, a bomb did fall near the intersection of Green Lanes & Bowes Rd/N.C.Rd opposite Princes Ave. People were killed and the site was eventually leased by two brothers and used a a used car lot space called Keith Cars until the late 70s. Im impressed. Remember the barbers shop. The bombs which fell in Green Lanes/Princes Avenue referred to earlier were caused because one of our anti-aircraft guns which were mounted on the railway line shot off the back of a plane carrying bombs to drop on London and the whole stick fell there. July 2015. I lived next to the Bird In Hand Pub in the early 79s, but my grandparents used to own a toy and Oran shop on the corner of Tottenham road and wolves lane. Was this a WW2 bomb? Bruno would leave the bar at 9.30pm each night, snooker cue in hand and walk to the Cock Tavern for several beers & a few games of snooker. He took the train each morning from Palmers Green station. PS. Many years later when I was adult he told me what he saw. The Fox has a number of accolades. I do not expect a comment, as this was many years ago. Going back a bit who used to run up Fox Lane, stand on the bridge and wait to be covered in steam from the trains . And talk of the Beezazwe had the Two Bare Feet coffee bar in Winchesterif you could get past Sgt. Hi John Its not my memory of PG thats off, its my ability to tell right from left Im waving my left hand around saying Im sure it was on this side!!! Probably some of my first photographs were taken there. I was given an anointing spoon to commemmorate the big day. I think it was late 50s . Good lunch time food & very good value. Does anyone remember Palmers Green High School in the early to mid 60s. A man who was the spitting image of Reginald Varney (On the Buses fame} served behind the counter. Annyway I was bursting with fitness with all this pedalling on the Rudge when my time came to do National Service (Rifle Brigade. The owners were brother and sister Dominic & Anna both born in Italy who arrived in England after the second world war,they were very hard working & organised, so much so they only lived 200 yards opposite in Tottenhall Rd. To Gerry Hicks- yes I remember you, you had a wife called Rose and a daughter called Carol? There were two blokes in the back workshop mending bikes and preparing new ones. Me AnnywayI bought my first camera from Mr Kalms (Dixons) Edgeware (Agfa Silette) on the knock (so much a week) and cycled to Edgeware to pay the monthlya Canon copy of the Leica followed f1.8 lens but paid its way at weddins and I think I was one of the first to get back with ome developed colour (Ferrania) to the celebrations in them days. Yes..most definitely, I have a memory of a house flattened at the bottom of Park Avenue near to NRC. Opposite were the cottage gates where Italian Prisoners of War sold the plaitings of straw for pocket money. There was nearly always a queue to have your hair cut and my Mum would go shopping while I and my brothers sat and waited next to the coat stand. You done a bit of boxing? The small side road was Devonshire Avenue which continued behind the shops and ended near the railway station at the Triangle. Remember Roberts toy shop near the corner of Hazelwood Lane? I have lots of childhood memories about Palmers Green Railway Station. I havent been back for many years but believe the Doms cafe is still there. In the window there was a (seemingly) huge coffee grinding machine. I remember the entrance to Appleyards next to the post office. I lived in Tottenham rd all through the war being born in ,1935. Are you skating on thin ice already in the Netherlands? No Dave,my brothers name is Derek married to Cathy. Hi Raymond As to guy fawkes nightI was shot n the leg by a lout with an airrifle November, Beech Avenue 1948..no rush. But you are right about the window where you got served. I wonder if anyone remembers Dr Baxter who had a surgery in Hazelwood Lane at the junction with New River Crescent where the maisonettes are now? Ups Teamsters Contract 2023,
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